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		<title>By: bluefox</title>
		<link>http://www.minishorts.net/2006/03/29/knowing-our-places/#comment-62806</link>
		<dc:creator>bluefox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2007 16:20:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What should a fresh graduate be looking for then? a good experience in an MNC or small company ?  Or finding a good earning as a starting?  Any good opinion if a fresh graduate starts working at home better compare to working outside with a company?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What should a fresh graduate be looking for then? a good experience in an MNC or small company ?  Or finding a good earning as a starting?  Any good opinion if a fresh graduate starts working at home better compare to working outside with a company?</p>
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		<title>By: Kenny</title>
		<link>http://www.minishorts.net/2006/03/29/knowing-our-places/#comment-57670</link>
		<dc:creator>Kenny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jan 2007 06:24:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ROTFL! Your friend really cracked me up!

While the attitude of such people might seem like plain ego, their inflated sense of self-worth might be the result of society's emphasis on paper qualifications.

Perhaps your friends should read this list from my blog (I'm not the author of the list, merely reposting).
http://kennyf.blogspot.com/2006/12/rules-from-bill-gates-i-dont-think-so.html


After all, they did slave for their degrees. In my opinion, as good jobs get more and more specialized, degrees get less and less important. 
Of course, I'm speaking from my limited experience in the IT industry. Seems to me a direct certification from say..Microsoft, Sun Microsystems, Cisco or any of those industry giants would better prepare someone for a tech job.


BTW, Bill Gates did not graduate from Harvard. He was a college drop out...not a degree holder. Just an interesting thought.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ROTFL! Your friend really cracked me up!</p>
<p>While the attitude of such people might seem like plain ego, their inflated sense of self-worth might be the result of society&#8217;s emphasis on paper qualifications.</p>
<p>Perhaps your friends should read this list from my blog (I&#8217;m not the author of the list, merely reposting).<br />
<a href="http://kennyf.blogspot.com/2006/12/rules-from-bill-gates-i-dont-think-so.html" rel="nofollow">http://kennyf.blogspot.com/2006/12/rules-from-bill-gates-i-dont-think-so.html</a></p>
<p>After all, they did slave for their degrees. In my opinion, as good jobs get more and more specialized, degrees get less and less important.<br />
Of course, I&#8217;m speaking from my limited experience in the IT industry. Seems to me a direct certification from say..Microsoft, Sun Microsystems, Cisco or any of those industry giants would better prepare someone for a tech job.</p>
<p>BTW, Bill Gates did not graduate from Harvard. He was a college drop out&#8230;not a degree holder. Just an interesting thought.</p>
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		<title>By: naif gal</title>
		<link>http://www.minishorts.net/2006/03/29/knowing-our-places/#comment-57017</link>
		<dc:creator>naif gal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jan 2007 03:15:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you say 
"A degree proves nothing", then "a good job might get you nowhere"

What's the point of getting a job where You don't even know where you will be after 5 years.

You might end up in retrenchment? Contract not renewed? 
Just like some BIG companies IF you were to know them.
And you might need to start from scratch all over again...

After all your hard work and effort you put in, when the company don't need you anymore, It’s time to say GOODBYE. 

The best thing would be is still
BE YOUR OWN BOSS!!!
Well, definitely no easy being a BOSS.. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you say<br />
&#8220;A degree proves nothing&#8221;, then &#8220;a good job might get you nowhere&#8221;</p>
<p>What&#8217;s the point of getting a job where You don&#8217;t even know where you will be after 5 years.</p>
<p>You might end up in retrenchment? Contract not renewed?<br />
Just like some BIG companies IF you were to know them.<br />
And you might need to start from scratch all over again&#8230;</p>
<p>After all your hard work and effort you put in, when the company don&#8217;t need you anymore, It’s time to say GOODBYE. </p>
<p>The best thing would be is still<br />
BE YOUR OWN BOSS!!!<br />
Well, definitely no easy being a BOSS.. <img src='http://www.minishorts.net/wp/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: jen</title>
		<link>http://www.minishorts.net/2006/03/29/knowing-our-places/#comment-19377</link>
		<dc:creator>jen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Apr 2006 12:39:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>:(

i guess, since im having a first class degree...
and employers dont wanna hire employees because FC degree holders are "techy"...
and too cocky..
and too ambitious..
and.... etc etc..

i will be jobless... because employers are stereotyping me on my result even before interviewing me.

gosh.
im so sad...
:(</description>
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<p>i guess, since im having a first class degree&#8230;<br />
and employers dont wanna hire employees because FC degree holders are &#8220;techy&#8221;&#8230;<br />
and too cocky..<br />
and too ambitious..<br />
and&#8230;. etc etc..</p>
<p>i will be jobless&#8230; because employers are stereotyping me on my result even before interviewing me.</p>
<p>gosh.<br />
im so sad&#8230;<br />
 <img src='http://www.minishorts.net/wp/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Gia</title>
		<link>http://www.minishorts.net/2006/03/29/knowing-our-places/#comment-19375</link>
		<dc:creator>Gia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Apr 2006 09:05:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You probably would never read this, I was just browsing through and read this entry of yours. I have to say, being THAT person who is still looking for a job, with really average academic performance, and a very willing-to-learn attitude, I am THAT fresh graduate that yearns the perfect job and with no problem in working my way up from the bottom. Your entry gave me the encouragement and inspiration to work harder and be more optimistic about my future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You probably would never read this, I was just browsing through and read this entry of yours. I have to say, being THAT person who is still looking for a job, with really average academic performance, and a very willing-to-learn attitude, I am THAT fresh graduate that yearns the perfect job and with no problem in working my way up from the bottom. Your entry gave me the encouragement and inspiration to work harder and be more optimistic about my future.</p>
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		<title>By: minishorts</title>
		<link>http://www.minishorts.net/2006/03/29/knowing-our-places/#comment-19351</link>
		<dc:creator>minishorts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Apr 2006 02:52:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>tomatoinc: i think with this post i've sort of betrayed my own 'tribe'. ^_^</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>tomatoinc: i think with this post i&#8217;ve sort of betrayed my own &#8216;tribe&#8217;. ^_^</p>
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		<title>By: tomatoinc</title>
		<link>http://www.minishorts.net/2006/03/29/knowing-our-places/#comment-19339</link>
		<dc:creator>tomatoinc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Apr 2006 01:23:21 +0000</pubDate>
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nekokun:
Im guessing here.. maybe I’m wrong.. most of you are not first class student eh? 

Posted Thursday, 30 March 2006, 2:12 pm 37 minishorts says: 
yeah most of us aren’t and we’re errrrr… SOUR GRAPES hahahaha. 

"

Stereotype as we may - perhaps 25-50% of first class honours are awesome hardworking people with excellent social skills and what not. That percentage might be lower for malaysians given that we re so exam-orientated. For those employers who instantly reject first class honours for not-so-technical jobs - i would say they are choosing to have 2nd class services. a good degree is certainly a good signal to employers regarding the employee's capability. 

ps: i didn't get first class either.</description>
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<p>nekokun:<br />
Im guessing here.. maybe I’m wrong.. most of you are not first class student eh? </p>
<p>Posted Thursday, 30 March 2006, 2:12 pm 37 minishorts says:<br />
yeah most of us aren’t and we’re errrrr… SOUR GRAPES hahahaha. </p>
<p>&#8221;</p>
<p>Stereotype as we may - perhaps 25-50% of first class honours are awesome hardworking people with excellent social skills and what not. That percentage might be lower for malaysians given that we re so exam-orientated. For those employers who instantly reject first class honours for not-so-technical jobs - i would say they are choosing to have 2nd class services. a good degree is certainly a good signal to employers regarding the employee&#8217;s capability. </p>
<p>ps: i didn&#8217;t get first class either.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Tan</title>
		<link>http://www.minishorts.net/2006/03/29/knowing-our-places/#comment-19338</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Tan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Mar 2006 22:09:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't have a degree. Or a diploma.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t have a degree. Or a diploma.</p>
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		<title>By: kenneth-n</title>
		<link>http://www.minishorts.net/2006/03/29/knowing-our-places/#comment-19334</link>
		<dc:creator>kenneth-n</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Mar 2006 03:14:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i got only 3rd class diploma and now i'm doing fine, got a satisfactory wage. Plus i get to travel once in a while on work purposes. What matters is that one needs to show the desire to learn and gain the invaluable exposure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i got only 3rd class diploma and now i&#8217;m doing fine, got a satisfactory wage. Plus i get to travel once in a while on work purposes. What matters is that one needs to show the desire to learn and gain the invaluable exposure.</p>
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		<title>By: nekokun</title>
		<link>http://www.minishorts.net/2006/03/29/knowing-our-places/#comment-19333</link>
		<dc:creator>nekokun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Mar 2006 02:23:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well one think that I'm sure of, it is no easy task getting first class... And sadly, the fact is I dont have one... therefore I'm in no position to say that first class is nothing.

But I do know having first class, stands you out from the rest of the pack for your first job. Most big MNC only hire first class or extremely smart person. So If you those that have one, I'm so envy at you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well one think that I&#8217;m sure of, it is no easy task getting first class&#8230; And sadly, the fact is I dont have one&#8230; therefore I&#8217;m in no position to say that first class is nothing.</p>
<p>But I do know having first class, stands you out from the rest of the pack for your first job. Most big MNC only hire first class or extremely smart person. So If you those that have one, I&#8217;m so envy at you!</p>
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