A call to wipe out Christianity, ‘In The Name of Allah?’
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This post is dedicated to the editors and administrators of Bismika Allahuma, translated as 'In the Name of Allah'. With regards to THIS POST.
I don't see how you can proclaim to respect the People of the Book, and other Christians alike, when it is obvious from this single sentence on the front page of a blog you openly claim to be 'scholarly' and administered by you, that you and your kind have first on your list of things to do, an objective to wipe out Christianity.
THERE IS NOTHING PEACEFUL ABOUT A GROUP OF PEOPLE WHO CHOOSE TO MAKE OPEN THEIR INTENTIONS AND THEIR HOPE IS FOR A WORLD WITHOUT CHRISTIANITY ANOTHER RELIGION. Even if Islam takes over Christianity as the largest religion in the world, it doesn't mean that Christianity will be wiped out.
Do you not understand the peace on earth is not about wiping out another person's beliefs and to unify everything under ONE single religion?
Good Lord, I cannot believe some people. And to hide under the umbrella of one religion, and to claim God as their own. Even worser, being so fervent that they can very frighteningly, imply that a whole lot of believers who believe in the same God, have that same ideal too.
I see now, my fellow blogger MENJ, whom I remember, when he sent me a copy of his book, BUDDHISM: A MUSLIM PRIMER for that review so long ago, signing off his name, as 'your Muslim friend, MENJ, ' suggesting that he came in peace, and that this was someone far more gentle and kind than the rude and caustic words he can be capable of spewing whenever someone REMOTELY suggests that he's overtly BIGOTED.
Tell me MENJ, how do you expect me to believe you and your message that you come in peace, when you so openly say on the first page of your blog, this:
A vision of the future
What the future could be, a vision of the world without Christianity. How you as a Muslim can help us.
No one is misquoting you, my 'I come in peace' friend, because the article that you've put just below those lines are anything, but 'peaceful'. I quote the first paragraph of the fake document:
Latest reports quote that after years of being in operation, the scholarly Malaysian website, Bismika Allahuma, located at www.bismikaallahuma.org and managed by a Malaysian, have succeeded in their task of exposing Christianity and destroying it.
If this is your version of a vision for the ultimate victory of your website, well then, all the things that they say about your being a religious bigot and terrorist HAVE TO BE TRUE.
And don't come to me with anything like, 'That site is not for non-Muslims to read, and it is none of your business,' or 'That is my own opinion and I can damn well write anything I want.'
Don't throw that kind of 'scholarly' rebuttal to me, because, and the scary thing is that THAT SITE OF YOURS is being read by MANY, MANY Malaysians alike, and if it is meant for Muslims, all the worse. What kind of propoganda are you PUTTING into the mind of your fellow believers?
WHAT KIND OF GLORIOUS ISLAMIC STATE ARE YOU PAINTING FOR PEOPLE LIKE US TO LOOK FORWARD TO?
I HATE TO HAVE TO REMIND YOU SO OPENLY HERE IN MINISHORTS.NET but, excuse me, one of the reasons I love Malaysia, and why I love my friends so much is the fact that I can embrace ANY RELIGION I want, go to Church on Sundays, and know that during Christmas, my Muslim friends will wish me Merry Christmas, with genuine affection. I know that during Wesak, I can happily drive my mother to the nearby temple, and even though I myself face questions from Christian friends alike for my choices in life, I know I can still hold myself up with my own personal beliefs.
YES. I know there are CONTRADICTING LINES in both our religions that CAN cause us to be religious enemies all the way. But I have never, ever, in my ENTIRE LIFE, heard a Christian talk about wiping out Islam, the way you so openly declare that the destruction of Christianity is what you look forward to. If you have suffered any persecution from Christians, well I am sorry for their behaviour.
But it is not in human nature, to return violence, with violence. The tendency to return hate with hate is something that we should all TRY very hard to stay far away from.
Victory is not sought by wiping out, or destroying a stronger nemesis. That is an archaic misconception that remains archaic for obvious reasons. We have not progressed this far in life to enjoy the considerable peace that we have now just to see it being ridiculed and corrupted by the likes of you, who loudly profess to be 'scholars' in Islamic writing and comparative religion. If your version of comparative religion serves no purpose except of that to 'expose' and 'destroy' the tenets of another religion, well I have to burst your bubble here then.
Comparative religion is not about comparing several religions with each other in order to outprove one another. Comparative religion exists so that we can learn about each other's differences and define ways to co-exist in harmony DESPITE the obvious fundamentals within EACH religion that insists that ONE is more superior than the other. It exists because it is necessary to learn how to RESPECT each other, so that this world, bequeathed unto us by Almighty God, will persevere in spite of our differences in geography, idealogy and skin colour.
And so, MENJ (and people who actually agree with his bigot-like opinions), let me tell you one thing: that as long as there are Christians in this world, the religion will not be destroyed. EVEN ONE CHRISTIAN, confirms the existence of this belief system. As long as there are Buddhists, Buddhism will not be depleted. As long as there are Hindus, Hinduism will thrive. And I know this, as long as there are Muslims like you, the bruised image of Islam will never be restored to its former glory.
Unless of course,you choose to take out the peoples of this world with beliefs contrary to yours, by means of violent force, and then perhaps, you can see that vision printed of yours, come real.
And it is SHAMEFUL to put your bigoted opinions under the name of BISMIKA ALLAHUMA, which means, 'In your name, Allah.'
If THAT POST is indicative of what YOU plan to do in Allah's name, God knows what kind of disgusting things you can be further capable of. Yes of course, I understand it is your intention to use the site to counter anti-Islamic websites, but substituting that noble mission in order to uphold your beliefs, with an anti-other religion website is certainly NOT something that you should do in any God's name.
Now, readers, if you are a Muslim reading this, tell me, do you think you'd like to help a fellow Muslim like the ones in support of Bismika Allahuma to 'expose Christianity and destroy it'?
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May 18, 2006 at 7:14 pm
I applaud your attempt to defend Christians, and i absolutely love your writing. It is people like you who truly deserve to be in God’s kingdom. Believe it or not, intentionally or not, you’re doing ministry work here, and I think it’s awesome. God never fails to work in different ways, and He never fails to work through different people with such talents. I’ve always wanted to express myself, how i feel about God and what-not on my blog, but i can’t write for nuts. So I’ll just leave it to people like you. =)
Whether Menj like it or not, Christianity is the biggest religion in the world, and we’re staying put. Bring on the presecutions, Menj.. we’re called to do it, and I would die with honor serving my God. Nothing you say or make up can ever take my faith and belief away, and I believe I’m speaking for the Christ followers out there.
When judgement day comes, we will be rewarded.. not you..
anyways, have a good one..
May 18, 2006 at 7:21 pm
when i say die with honor, I don’t mean kill-myself-with-thousands-of-people die, but i meant to die for my belief.. I rather to be killed than shunning away my belief for any reasons at all
May 18, 2006 at 7:35 pm
I haven’t read Menj’s page, so this is going to be a general comment based on what I’ve been reading here!
Intolerance and fear amongst people who feel they need to destroy others beliefs is normally a good sign of a persons own insecurities.
It seems that the majority of people in the world prefer to be tolerant of others and their beliefs as a means of mutual respect. Lack of tolerance is a lack of respect and will lead to others not respecting you.
It’s not difficult to accept that in many cases we are all going to have to agree to disagree. In fact, if I remember what I’ve read, Muhommad was very much a person who used to try to seek solutions and compromises to keep the harmony for all. [The time he got the rival chiefs to move the stone by using a carpet so all could carry one corner is a good example. Each chief had wanted to move the stone on their own as a sign of their own importance].
Anyway, almost all religions now-a-days preach tolerance and good will to all. In a day and age that harmony is abundant, it is very out of step to preach disharmony and destructivenss. If a religion is truly wrong, it may attract followers, but, at the end of the day, that is their choice. Most of those sorts of religions die out too … especially in the face of ZERO persecution. [That's right, lack of persecution leads to religions dying off!]
There used to be on old puzzle, about a person who had to chose between two doors. Behind one door was a tiger and behind the other was his fiance. If he chose the wrong one, he would be eaten, if he chose the right door, he got to get married.
Religion is like a person standing in front of those doors, only the person has decided which is the correct door. Religious intolerance is trying to force someone through the other door. How easy is it to force a person through a door if they honestly believe a tiger awaits on the other side? Not easy.
Thinking you will destroy a religion is like telling the practitioners of that religion you are going to throw them into the tigers den whether they like it or not! The harder you try to force them through the door, the more they will take a stand and the more you will fail!
May 18, 2006 at 8:07 pm
I would like to read your comments on this article
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/4965580.stm
May 19, 2006 at 12:47 pm
I think this I can share this safely here?
[POST DELETED FOR LACK OF CONTEXT]
No you ought not, so I have deleted the post. This is the kind of ‘message’ that the original site of Bismika Allahuma was meant to divert, and like I said, there is no dignity in replacing destructive discussion with another.
May 20, 2006 at 6:33 pm
The best thing about religions is that you can still hangout with your favourite religious figure if your religion happen to be fake provided that the true religion have a place for non believer after life…Hot and suffering, yeah I know but imagine you can meet Buddhie, Sir J, Dalai, Sista Teresa. UP CLOSE AND PERSONAL and you have unlimited time to learn from them. Hehehe.
May 21, 2006 at 1:27 am
I respect your action! I wouldnt call him a religious fanatic but more of a sinner. His action of mocking other religion is an action I would say, the cause of racism and anger among different religions. It is only right for us to protect those religions he has been mocking aimlessly. Many people would say , “why don’t you just let it be?” but if we are ignorant, our rights will be gone. I believe in my religion (catholic) and I will do any thing to protect it from such pointless and racist remark.
May 21, 2006 at 12:39 pm
how come the date is aug 2006?
May 21, 2006 at 2:46 pm
Exposing Christianity and destroying? wtf? forgive me, from what i know Islam didn’t teach its followers to kill others because of religion differences.
God create human-kind with an instinct of wanting to devote themselves to a higher supreme-being, and this has been explained in Hadith. Islam acknowledge the existance of other religion, and Hadith has also explained that the non-muslims is not an enemy of Islam as long as they do not oppose Islam or the teaching of Islam.
We should live in harmony, peaceful world, no more war, no more killing and bloodbaths.
May 22, 2006 at 12:55 pm
God grace. It is already 2006.
I thought I didn’t make it through the time machine.
May 22, 2006 at 2:42 pm
MENJ a muslim? Are you sure? If that’s true, what a real shame! Nonsense point of view. He’s actually hiding behind the name of ISLAM.
May 22, 2006 at 9:08 pm
I’m a Muslim and I have to voice out about this..
Honestly, my belief is not on their ground. Islam wont force other people from different religion to convert to Islam. Those who acted beyond boundary is just an extremist and harming themselves.
Believe me, Muslims that is rational and educated really dont want to do like the guy does. We’re after all have our own taught, and we’re free to follow what we believe.
Ok, Im started to nagging..so better stop here. hahaha..
May 23, 2006 at 10:34 am
I would’nt give the time of the day, much less space on my blog on such ignorance, arrogance and sheer stewpigdity.
For religious bigots like these lots I say “U can shove the paddle up you-know-where!”
May 24, 2006 at 2:24 pm
Drama in a little blogging teacup: that MenJ “thing”
Just as I thought for the gazzilionth time whether I should continue blogging, something comes up in the Malaysian blogosphere. It all began when a blogger called MenJ put up an article on an Islamic website, Bismika Allahuma, called a…
May 29, 2006 at 10:58 am
Answering-Islam is a not a destructive site and refutes Islam peacefully. It does not seek to “destroy” Muslims but to convert them.
As the Holy Apostle Paul (may the Lord’s peace be upon him) said “There is no difference between Jew or Greek, and to the Jews I become like a Jew to convert the Jews to Christians, and to the Greeks I become like a Greek to convert the Greeks to Christians”
Race is artificial so says Paul of Tarsus, apostle to the Gentiles. We can change our race regularly.
September 8, 2006 at 3:44 pm
i have to agree with you that this people are ruining islam’s image. i have to disagree that religion is bout respecting one another. i am 15. i beleive that religion is about following the right way to beleive in god which is his way, the one that is genuinly teached by HIM. i also have to say that i am proud to know that there are people like you who cares n respest.thank tou.
September 9, 2006 at 12:40 am
MENJ has a Friendster account,
http://www.friendster.com/user.php?uid=5437457
Before this i cant imagine a guy that bashes liberals, rants with a holier-than-thou attitude and yet enjoys liberal media entertainment. Just look at his favorites. A PAS member such as MENJ wouldn’t normally caught dead watching Smallville, would he? And on his website
http://www.menj.org/about-menj/
He openly admits enjoying eminem(!), how unislamic is that? Talk about hypocrites!
June 25, 2007 at 5:10 pm
This Menj is a fraud, I have sent several comments. He will only post comments that he can answer and ridicule the other party. If the comments are detrimental to Islam and exposes Islam will not post it. I think he is afraid that muslims will convert to christianity. That’s why he is obessed with Lina Joy . He cannot understand why muslims are leaving the religion in flocks and choose to remain underground.
August 24, 2007 at 10:13 am
crazy. why would a muslim wants to wipe out christianity? or why would anyone of any religion wants to wipe out any religion? nothing else better to do? can’t they just let it be? why can’t we just respect each other’s religion and don’t discriminate? i believe that all religion is equal, they teach their followers to be good and kind, not the other way around.
September 20, 2007 at 11:02 am
I think Menj is a true muslim. If you really read and literally understand the Koran that’s what you are supposed to do. Why do you think Ayatullah Khomeini, Osama, Ahmadjenidin were and are bent on destruction of the world ? Do you think they are reading a different book from the liberal muslims ?
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