Comments on: We are not retards. http://www.minishorts.net/2006/08/10/we-are-not-retards/ this time, we're keeping it simple. Mon, 15 Mar 2010 10:59:34 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9 hourly 1 By: minishorts http://www.minishorts.net/2006/08/10/we-are-not-retards/comment-page-2/#comment-24042 minishorts Mon, 14 Aug 2006 05:12:10 +0000 http://www.minishorts.net/2006/08/10/we-are-not-retards/#comment-24042 I personally find that site, Ibrahim Ali, offensive, and unbecoming of 'Christian behavior'. As much as I condemn fundamentalists of any religion, I have to admit that even in my own belief systems there are reactions by Christians which leave much to be desire. This is not the first time I've highlighted this issue, and I will not allow this discussion to continue thereafter... I sum it up as this, 'we all will agree to disagree, but against fundamentalist behaviours that threaten to be detrimental towards the better peace of all nations, we will speak up in unison against such uncontrolled behavior. And this is what this platfomr has been all about.' Thank you everyone. Let's move on to better things. I personally find that site, Ibrahim Ali, offensive, and unbecoming of ‘Christian behavior’. As much as I condemn fundamentalists of any religion, I have to admit that even in my own belief systems there are reactions by Christians which leave much to be desire. This is not the first time I’ve highlighted this issue, and I will not allow this discussion to continue thereafter…

I sum it up as this, ‘we all will agree to disagree, but against fundamentalist behaviours that threaten to be detrimental towards the better peace of all nations, we will speak up in unison against such uncontrolled behavior. And this is what this platfomr has been all about.’

Thank you everyone.

Let’s move on to better things.

]]> By: Ibrahim Ali http://www.minishorts.net/2006/08/10/we-are-not-retards/comment-page-2/#comment-24036 Ibrahim Ali Mon, 14 Aug 2006 03:14:32 +0000 http://www.minishorts.net/2006/08/10/we-are-not-retards/#comment-24036 Mini says: <b>Religion has been and always will be a sensitive matter. The struggles we all choose to take in faith are difficult ones, each requiring far more than combinations of responsibility, commitment and dedication. Every believer has his own story of his journey in faith. </b> I do not see religion as a sensitive matter. Under the 1st Ammendment codified in the Constitution of the U.S. of A, it is perfectly legal to speak about any religion, even if you are not its adherent. Nor is evangelism/ prosetylising/preaching the Christian way of life to a non Christian wrong, immoral or illegal. The U.S. of A is the most religious of all Western societies, perhaps because it is the only Western society controlled by the religious right. Alvin says: <b>Please stop preaching and start living the faith which you claim to believe. Which part of your belief system teach you to demean or insult other religions? Action speaks louder than words.</b> Why should a Christian person who lives a Christian way of life stop preaching (which means the same as evangelism or prosetylising) to unbelievers? Are you not aware that evangelism of Muslims (even if it may be illegal under the Malaysian Constitution of 1963) is a part of the Christian living. Even in the Roman Empire, from 33 C.E. onwards, Christians began breaking every law that forbade prosetyling of unbelievers, regardless Jews and Gentiles alike. The commands of God cannot be revoked and our vision is to strive of a Christian State modeled by Roman Emperor Constantine. Jesus was father of democracy and he gave orders to His Holy Apostles to conquer the Roman Empire in 400 years democratically (ie via love). On the 4th century, the Roman Empire was successfully conquered. Only fake Christian who is hardly Christian, in fact really communist (like Vladimir Lenin or Josef Stalin or Edward W Said) will say prosetyling is wrong. However, it is wise to note that the 1948 Universal Declaration of Human Rights and the 1st Ammendment of the Constitution of the U.S. of A. both allow prosetylising, evangelism or preaching Christian way of life to not just believers but also unbelievers. Mini says:
Religion has been and always will be a sensitive matter. The struggles we all choose to take in faith are difficult ones, each requiring far more than combinations of responsibility, commitment and dedication. Every believer has his own story of his journey in faith.

I do not see religion as a sensitive matter. Under the 1st Ammendment codified in the Constitution of the U.S. of A, it is perfectly legal to speak about any religion, even if you are not its adherent. Nor is evangelism/ prosetylising/preaching the Christian way of life to a non Christian wrong, immoral or illegal. The U.S. of A is the most religious of all Western societies, perhaps because it is the only Western society controlled by the religious right.

Alvin says:
Please stop preaching and start living the faith which you claim to believe. Which part of your belief system teach you to demean or insult other religions? Action speaks louder than words.

Why should a Christian person who lives a Christian way of life stop preaching (which means the same as evangelism or prosetylising) to unbelievers? Are you not aware that evangelism of Muslims (even if it may be illegal under the Malaysian Constitution of 1963) is a part of the Christian living. Even in the Roman Empire, from 33 C.E. onwards, Christians began breaking every law that forbade prosetyling of unbelievers, regardless Jews and Gentiles alike. The commands of God cannot be revoked and our vision is to strive of a Christian State modeled by Roman Emperor Constantine.

Jesus was father of democracy and he gave orders to His Holy Apostles to conquer the Roman Empire in 400 years democratically (ie via love). On the 4th century, the Roman Empire was successfully conquered.

Only fake Christian who is hardly Christian, in fact really communist (like Vladimir Lenin or Josef Stalin or Edward W Said) will say prosetyling is wrong. However, it is wise to note that the 1948 Universal Declaration of Human Rights and the 1st Ammendment of the Constitution of the U.S. of A. both allow prosetylising, evangelism or preaching Christian way of life to not just believers but also unbelievers.

]]> By: cynical-idealist http://www.minishorts.net/2006/08/10/we-are-not-retards/comment-page-2/#comment-23916 cynical-idealist Sat, 12 Aug 2006 16:19:45 +0000 http://www.minishorts.net/2006/08/10/we-are-not-retards/#comment-23916 MENJ: I don't know if you've seen it, but I've a message for you on my blog too. MENJ: I don’t know if you’ve seen it, but I’ve a message for you on my blog too.

]]> By: lolfang http://www.minishorts.net/2006/08/10/we-are-not-retards/comment-page-2/#comment-23912 lolfang Sat, 12 Aug 2006 16:12:04 +0000 http://www.minishorts.net/2006/08/10/we-are-not-retards/#comment-23912 lol, number 76! lol, number 76!

]]> By: menj http://www.minishorts.net/2006/08/10/we-are-not-retards/comment-page-2/#comment-23908 menj Sat, 12 Aug 2006 14:13:30 +0000 http://www.minishorts.net/2006/08/10/we-are-not-retards/#comment-23908 @Emmanuel: Response noted. You will know about the reply when it appears. - MENJ @Emmanuel: Response noted. You will know about the reply when it appears.

- MENJ

]]> By: noor hidayat http://www.minishorts.net/2006/08/10/we-are-not-retards/comment-page-2/#comment-23886 noor hidayat Sat, 12 Aug 2006 06:07:07 +0000 http://www.minishorts.net/2006/08/10/we-are-not-retards/#comment-23886 Urgh.. Menj is like that little fly that goes around buzz buzz and buzzing. I can't wait till someone use that electric fly attractor thing and goes "bbzzzttt!" Urgh.. Menj is like that little fly that goes around buzz buzz and buzzing. I can’t wait till someone use that electric fly attractor thing and goes “bbzzzttt!”

]]> By: Emmanuel http://www.minishorts.net/2006/08/10/we-are-not-retards/comment-page-2/#comment-23883 Emmanuel Sat, 12 Aug 2006 05:42:22 +0000 http://www.minishorts.net/2006/08/10/we-are-not-retards/#comment-23883 I will respond in my blog. I will respond in my blog.

]]> By: menj http://www.minishorts.net/2006/08/10/we-are-not-retards/comment-page-2/#comment-23881 menj Sat, 12 Aug 2006 05:34:32 +0000 http://www.minishorts.net/2006/08/10/we-are-not-retards/#comment-23881 @Emmanuel: I haven't forgotten, if that is what you are implying. - MENJ @Emmanuel: I haven’t forgotten, if that is what you are implying.

- MENJ

]]> By: Emmanuel http://www.minishorts.net/2006/08/10/we-are-not-retards/comment-page-2/#comment-23873 Emmanuel Sat, 12 Aug 2006 02:41:38 +0000 http://www.minishorts.net/2006/08/10/we-are-not-retards/#comment-23873 You have not answered the questions raised, don't you think its neccesary at this juncture? You have not answered the questions raised, don’t you think its neccesary at this juncture?

]]> By: menj http://www.minishorts.net/2006/08/10/we-are-not-retards/comment-page-2/#comment-23871 menj Sat, 12 Aug 2006 02:27:19 +0000 http://www.minishorts.net/2006/08/10/we-are-not-retards/#comment-23871 "why you would block people at this point of time." I am blocking all Malaysians with immediate effect, and this will be in force until further notice. I am also removing myself and my blog from the blogosphere (i.e. PPS). Oh, dont worry however, I will be around though, and through my proxies...but it wont be under the initials M.E.N.J. - MENJ “why you would block people at this point of time.”

I am blocking all Malaysians with immediate effect, and this will be in force until further notice. I am also removing myself and my blog from the blogosphere (i.e. PPS).

Oh, dont worry however, I will be around though, and through my proxies…but it wont be under the initials M.E.N.J.

- MENJ

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