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		<title>By: tj</title>
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		<dc:creator>tj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Oct 2006 04:18:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Philippians 2:3-4 - Dont be selfish, dont live to make a good impression on others.  Be humble, thinking of others as better than yourself.  Dont think only about your own affairs, but be interested in others too and what they are doing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Philippians 2:3-4 &#8211; Dont be selfish, dont live to make a good impression on others.  Be humble, thinking of others as better than yourself.  Dont think only about your own affairs, but be interested in others too and what they are doing.</p>
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		<title>By: Ray</title>
		<link>http://www.minishorts.net/2006/10/10/conversations-to-the-believers/comment-page-1/#comment-28287</link>
		<dc:creator>Ray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Oct 2006 02:51:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I;m not sure if this is relevent  here or not but it does have something to do with religions and their believe

In Malaysia,  the moment a baby is born in a muslim famlily, the baby is convert to Islam straight away by their family. The child will grow up being pious to his/her religion because that is the religion that has been instilled into him/her ever since he/she was a child.

But, wht if the child is given the right to choose his/her religion.  Wouldnt that change everything including his/her belief. 
That led me to think. Not everyone has the right to choose their religion.

ps: i;m not sure wht i&#039;m rambling here. 

ray</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I;m not sure if this is relevent  here or not but it does have something to do with religions and their believe</p>
<p>In Malaysia,  the moment a baby is born in a muslim famlily, the baby is convert to Islam straight away by their family. The child will grow up being pious to his/her religion because that is the religion that has been instilled into him/her ever since he/she was a child.</p>
<p>But, wht if the child is given the right to choose his/her religion.  Wouldnt that change everything including his/her belief.<br />
That led me to think. Not everyone has the right to choose their religion.</p>
<p>ps: i;m not sure wht i&#8217;m rambling here. </p>
<p>ray</p>
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		<title>By: keane</title>
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		<dc:creator>keane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Oct 2006 03:03:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>there are &#039;funny&#039; people everywhere
chinese saying goes: ????????

have a friend, who i knew in sec sch and lost contact with till uni
there he had became a staunch christian
tried to convert me but failed
he said something which i to date do not agree (not stating)
but nevertheless, we have gotten over that episode
went to his baptism ceremonywish him well
now he&#039;s doing his pastoring work, which he is enjoying
and that is the most important thing to me

visited chinese and hindu temples, mosques, churches
i would say all gave me a sense of serenity in itself
all religions preaches good, which to me, is the bottomline
so to me, it doesn&#039;t matter which religion you believe
as long as you believe that it&#039;s good for yourself, i will be happy for you
even if i myself don&#039;t believe in it

still a foggy day... =(
keane</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>there are &#8216;funny&#8217; people everywhere<br />
chinese saying goes: ????????</p>
<p>have a friend, who i knew in sec sch and lost contact with till uni<br />
there he had became a staunch christian<br />
tried to convert me but failed<br />
he said something which i to date do not agree (not stating)<br />
but nevertheless, we have gotten over that episode<br />
went to his baptism ceremonywish him well<br />
now he&#8217;s doing his pastoring work, which he is enjoying<br />
and that is the most important thing to me</p>
<p>visited chinese and hindu temples, mosques, churches<br />
i would say all gave me a sense of serenity in itself<br />
all religions preaches good, which to me, is the bottomline<br />
so to me, it doesn&#8217;t matter which religion you believe<br />
as long as you believe that it&#8217;s good for yourself, i will be happy for you<br />
even if i myself don&#8217;t believe in it</p>
<p>still a foggy day&#8230; =(<br />
keane</p>
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		<title>By: minishorts</title>
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		<dc:creator>minishorts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Oct 2006 23:30:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>fun what? annoying me?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>fun what? annoying me?</p>
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		<title>By: shaunewe</title>
		<link>http://www.minishorts.net/2006/10/10/conversations-to-the-believers/comment-page-1/#comment-28180</link>
		<dc:creator>shaunewe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Oct 2006 12:58:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>=D

No, you don&#039;t sound lost. And neither am I more found than you. Just like you, this whole thing is a journey, and we&#039;re all walking down different paths, so i don&#039;t think i&#039;m ahead of you or behind you either ways. Being righteous is one thing. Judging others is another (it&#039;s not right to judge so i dun think it&#039;s righteous) but yes, you&#039;re right, we must be watchful not to stumble along the way. More importantly, we have to watch our words since what we say may cause others to stumble too. 

If you think my intention is to show that i&#039;m a better christian that anyone or to put you down, then you&#039;re wrong. If that&#039;s how my words come across to you, I apologize. Come on, you are more than capable to take advice and grow from it. Don&#039;t look at everything with cynism and retort. 

Sorry if I annoyed you. It was fun, though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>=D</p>
<p>No, you don&#8217;t sound lost. And neither am I more found than you. Just like you, this whole thing is a journey, and we&#8217;re all walking down different paths, so i don&#8217;t think i&#8217;m ahead of you or behind you either ways. Being righteous is one thing. Judging others is another (it&#8217;s not right to judge so i dun think it&#8217;s righteous) but yes, you&#8217;re right, we must be watchful not to stumble along the way. More importantly, we have to watch our words since what we say may cause others to stumble too. </p>
<p>If you think my intention is to show that i&#8217;m a better christian that anyone or to put you down, then you&#8217;re wrong. If that&#8217;s how my words come across to you, I apologize. Come on, you are more than capable to take advice and grow from it. Don&#8217;t look at everything with cynism and retort. </p>
<p>Sorry if I annoyed you. It was fun, though.</p>
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		<title>By: Kapitan Karsinoma</title>
		<link>http://www.minishorts.net/2006/10/10/conversations-to-the-believers/comment-page-1/#comment-28178</link>
		<dc:creator>Kapitan Karsinoma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Oct 2006 12:26:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i thought religion was about preaching love, about loving everybody and forgiveness. i wonder why they always ignore that part and go to the fire and brimstone and damnation and evil and satan and condescending &quot;i feel compassion for you because you&#039;re so deluded.&quot;

bleh.

btw, havent been reading ur blog for quite sometime. just came by today and glad that it&#039;s still the same, just more so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i thought religion was about preaching love, about loving everybody and forgiveness. i wonder why they always ignore that part and go to the fire and brimstone and damnation and evil and satan and condescending &#8220;i feel compassion for you because you&#8217;re so deluded.&#8221;</p>
<p>bleh.</p>
<p>btw, havent been reading ur blog for quite sometime. just came by today and glad that it&#8217;s still the same, just more so.</p>
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		<title>By: minishorts</title>
		<link>http://www.minishorts.net/2006/10/10/conversations-to-the-believers/comment-page-1/#comment-28172</link>
		<dc:creator>minishorts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Oct 2006 10:02:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i know lah keane. just wondering ... and matching strange behaviour. 

likewise, believe this, i have friends who are appalled when i tell them &#039; I VISITED A MOSQUE&#039; ... they tell me to be careful, less i turn muslim. 

but just visiting a mosque doesn&#039;t shake my faith. 

because when faith is strong, not even death that take away that belief you hold so strongly too. you die in that faith.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i know lah keane. just wondering &#8230; and matching strange behaviour. </p>
<p>likewise, believe this, i have friends who are appalled when i tell them &#8216; I VISITED A MOSQUE&#8217; &#8230; they tell me to be careful, less i turn muslim. </p>
<p>but just visiting a mosque doesn&#8217;t shake my faith. </p>
<p>because when faith is strong, not even death that take away that belief you hold so strongly too. you die in that faith.</p>
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		<title>By: keane</title>
		<link>http://www.minishorts.net/2006/10/10/conversations-to-the-believers/comment-page-1/#comment-28159</link>
		<dc:creator>keane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Oct 2006 08:48:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi minishorts,

have been following your blog for some time.
seems that you are always being &#039;harassed&#039; by fundamentalists.
that being said, i don&#039;t think you shld be too &#039;worked up&#039; by your muslim friend to reject an invitation to a church wedding.
similarly, if you had rejected his/her invitation to a mosque, alarm bells should not be ringing.
it doesn&#039;t necessary mean that if you went to his/her mosque, he/she must come to a church wedding.
different people have different tolerance level when it comes to religious beliefs, and i believe we should accept that.
like in a relationship, do you expect to receive in the same quantity when you give out?
if so, then the relationship will not last.

my 0.5 cents,
keane</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi minishorts,</p>
<p>have been following your blog for some time.<br />
seems that you are always being &#8216;harassed&#8217; by fundamentalists.<br />
that being said, i don&#8217;t think you shld be too &#8216;worked up&#8217; by your muslim friend to reject an invitation to a church wedding.<br />
similarly, if you had rejected his/her invitation to a mosque, alarm bells should not be ringing.<br />
it doesn&#8217;t necessary mean that if you went to his/her mosque, he/she must come to a church wedding.<br />
different people have different tolerance level when it comes to religious beliefs, and i believe we should accept that.<br />
like in a relationship, do you expect to receive in the same quantity when you give out?<br />
if so, then the relationship will not last.</p>
<p>my 0.5 cents,<br />
keane</p>
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		<title>By: minishorts</title>
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		<dc:creator>minishorts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Oct 2006 08:23:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and btw, since we&#039;re at it. 

DO i sound lost to you? 

Are you more &#039;found&#039; than me? 

If not, let me assure you, &lt;em&gt;I have been set free, and I&#039;m still on this searching journey with Christ. &lt;/em&gt;, something apt in Christian-speak. 

That apart. How certain are you that you&#039;re somewhere ahead of me? Or how certain am I that I&#039;m far lagging behind Christ&#039;s ideals of how I should walk in Christ? 

Somehow, Shaun, we both want to minister &#039;lost souls&#039; to come back to the Lord, to be saved... but along the way, we need also to remind ourselves not to be too righteous, and be sinful in judging other people. At the end of the day, we&#039;re all striving to be like Christ, but none of us can profess to be most in Christ than another person. 

&lt;em&gt;which also means to say I don&#039;t really appreciate you coming and telling me that the truth will set me free, because I think I could also tell you the same thing, and you&#039;ll end up in a quandary thinking &#039;what on earth is minishorts talking about?&#039;... nah... people like you never do get it, because to you every other believer is one step behind your achievements as a Christian.&lt;/em&gt; 

Or at least, that&#039;s how, you come across in your comments to me. 

And btw, I need to remind you again that this is My blog. So don&#039;t get holier than me. Because you&#039;re annoying.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and btw, since we&#8217;re at it. </p>
<p>DO i sound lost to you? </p>
<p>Are you more &#8216;found&#8217; than me? </p>
<p>If not, let me assure you, <em>I have been set free, and I&#8217;m still on this searching journey with Christ. </em>, something apt in Christian-speak. </p>
<p>That apart. How certain are you that you&#8217;re somewhere ahead of me? Or how certain am I that I&#8217;m far lagging behind Christ&#8217;s ideals of how I should walk in Christ? </p>
<p>Somehow, Shaun, we both want to minister &#8216;lost souls&#8217; to come back to the Lord, to be saved&#8230; but along the way, we need also to remind ourselves not to be too righteous, and be sinful in judging other people. At the end of the day, we&#8217;re all striving to be like Christ, but none of us can profess to be most in Christ than another person. </p>
<p><em>which also means to say I don&#8217;t really appreciate you coming and telling me that the truth will set me free, because I think I could also tell you the same thing, and you&#8217;ll end up in a quandary thinking &#8216;what on earth is minishorts talking about?&#8217;&#8230; nah&#8230; people like you never do get it, because to you every other believer is one step behind your achievements as a Christian.</em> </p>
<p>Or at least, that&#8217;s how, you come across in your comments to me. </p>
<p>And btw, I need to remind you again that this is My blog. So don&#8217;t get holier than me. Because you&#8217;re annoying.</p>
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		<title>By: minishorts</title>
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		<dc:creator>minishorts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Oct 2006 07:55:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>shaunewe: ok thanks for volunteering to pastor me. i really appreciate it. 

God bless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>shaunewe: ok thanks for volunteering to pastor me. i really appreciate it. </p>
<p>God bless.</p>
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