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My poor God
Update: A self-professed problogger described Good Friday as 'nonsense' today, classifying it as the celebration of a half-naked man swinging from a cross. I'm mentioning this because it's interesting that this same person claims to be religious and wants people to learn about the wonder that is his religion Islam, and clearly tries to influence readers that his version of 'The Way of Life' is the right one (liberals can go to hell, by his definition). He calls himself religious and yet has no qualms over behaving like a narrow-minded bigot.
But to Muslims and non-Muslims alike, tell me this. Even if you find the idea of worshiping Jesus appalling and an insult to your personal beliefs, do you find it Islamic to declare outright to a blogosphere with a good % of people in it being Christians themselves, that their one day dedication of Jesus's sacrifice on the cross is nonsense?
If this kind of behaviour is considered classic and correct Islamic, than I have to fear for the world, and for once agree with the stereotyped opinion that Islam evokes terror. Pardon me.
I really wonder what God actually thinks of all this ridiculous bickering over who He loves most. So strange that the most spiritual and religious bunch of His children are behaving like a bunch of delinquent prodigal children who're wallowing in our sadly earth-bound state. We the ones who proudly walk around with banners and labels of 'religiousness' on our heads, chests, coercing the gullible into realizing that there is a God and life is very dangerous if we start living, ignorant of Him.
Interestingly, the ones who've chosen to disown God are seemingly less troubled and affected by all this bickering.
I hope I don't sound too mean and insensitive in this, but when the more conservative Muslims tell me about their God, they give me the impression that Allah is this super garang big guy there who is eager to make us do a lot of things just so that we can get closer to Him. While I personally feel that there's too many ritualistic demands of Muslims, all the efforts of bridging the gap to get to God ought to be respected and I do that. It's just that it gets quite annoying when once a new friend, Muslim, said, 'Eh are you living in with your boyfriend? Is he your only boyfriend? You all can live together and have sex, kan? Because your religion allows it right?'
I went, like, hello? Moral values do not necessarily have to co-relate with the quality of a religion, okay? And Islam is not the only religion that preaches for sexual morality, neither do other religions (or races for that matter) encourage promiscuity.
At the risk on stepping on more toes here, Christians can be pains in the asses too. But first let me say that I'm attracted to Christ because He represents God as a super loving God who loves me no matter what (and me, like any normal human being, craves love).
Unfortunately I'm quite repelled by Christians, a lot of them actually. Then again, I suppose when a religion represents itself as loving, there'll the possessive ones who'll start telling you, 'Oh you wanna be loved by God izzit? Sorry lah, unless you are not gay, pay your 10% tithes a month, sudah kena drenched by water, and destroy all the dragon statues in your house, Daddy up there is not going to love you very much. He will throw you out of the house if you so much as so think of sex, btw.'
In Christendom there's a lot of very kay-poh people who're all far too interested in how you walk your Christian walk. It is irritating because while preaching relationship with God to be a personal one, we're all so eager to help each other qualify the intensity of this personal relationship.
Buddhists in Malaysia, aren't really Buddhists. Or at least, when you mix what is in essence an atheistic teaching with superstitious practices, you get something that's quite difficult to define. Many folk-religionists I know are a strange lot, because they're version of God is rooted in modern-day materialistic tendencies. 'If you burn enough paper gold coins, God will be very happy with you. For Pai-Tee-Kong, for example, you can never burn lesser gold than you prepared for last year. You really don't want to make God angry and unhappy.'
Pardon me but it sounds more like bribing some heavenly kingdom God to take care of you. I suppose it's probably a very M'sian culture, with money, anything can. Even making God happy can be done by paying money. Oh and it seems to be that when God is happy, you will get more money. Religious piety is represented by the exterior blessings God provides, if you strike lottery, for instance, God has cast His favour upon you. Fall sick, or get into an accident, for example, and the rationale is probably that you displeased the Gods.
I'm sorry if I'm sounding a tad bitter, and supremely insensitive here, but sometimes, I really really really really wonder what the Big Guy up there really thinks.
And because I just so happen to believe in the Christ-led version of loving God, I'm thinking he lets us all play around in this round big playground of His, and He just watches us while we make our mistakes, and even hurt (or kill) each other in the process.
I suppose God just trusts in the good side of men, the side that's really keen to return to Him. And so He'll just patiently wait till His prodigal children decide to return to Him. Or when things get out of hand, I think He just slaps us on our cheeks and in difficult situations, force-brings us back to His realms.
It's just that, I wish that those strange blogs set up by the over-zealous Muslims don't sound so intimidating, and don't make me feel so scared and fearful about my personal freedom of choices in this country. I am worried actually, because there seems to be so many of those these days.
Having said all that, I'll just mention here that it is my personal belief that apostasy (out of any religion) is a personal struggle. It's just so disheartening that in this country, apostates have gone into such unwarranted limelight. Struggles for religious maruah not withstanding, why can't God be upheld by a lot of praising and worshiping, and why should one religion's 'face-value' be considered threatened just because some people are contemplating to leave the sect. Why must institutional religious success be quantified by numbers? Is 'more' necessarily better? Why all the importance placed on the rights and wrongs, and why must winning the argument always end in the cliché 'We'll see who ends up in Heaven'?
Why is there a need to win the argument anyway?
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about 3 years ago
Disown God? Well not all of us, some again just choose to see God differently that’s all. There isn’t a need to prove yourself when you’re perfectly secure in your own faith in what can or cannot be explained.
about 3 years ago
“Unfortunately I’m quite repelled by Christians, a lot of them actually. Then again, I suppose when a religion represents itself as loving, there’ll the possessive ones who’ll start telling you, ‘Oh you wanna be loved by God izzit? Sorry lah, unless you are not gay, pay your 10% tithes a month, sudah kena drenched by water, and destroy all the dragon statues in your house, Daddy up there is not going to love you very much. He will throw you out of the house if you so much as so think of sex, btw.’
In Christendom there’s a lot of very kay-poh people who’re all far too interested in how you walk your Christian walk. It is irritating because while preaching relationship with God to be a personal one, we’re all so eager to help each other qualify the intensity of this personal relationship. “
Amen sista, amen.
about 3 years ago
Your thoughts echo a lot of ours who cannot quite put it as eloquently.Happy Easter sister.
about 3 years ago
“I really really really really wonder what the Big Guy up there really thinks.”
Maybe he’s not bothered at all.
about 3 years ago
Very well said.
It’s appalling, simply blasphemous and downright WRONG to depict Christ, who died on the cross for us, as the “celebration of a half-naked man swinging from a cross”. How is it okay for a Muslim to cast such atrocities at us Christians and still am able to get away with it, but when their Islamic faith is put down, no matter how slight the issue, be condemned till it’s punishable by law?
Such double standards do not only baffle me, but disappoint me to no end. Humanity at its worst.
about 3 years ago
That jackass blogger doesn’t represent most Muslim bloggers lah, we’re not all ‘Osama’ wannabes lei
I wish we’re both right, but at the rate that his sites are mushrooming and his cronies are becoming more vocal, I fear for Islam more and more. I dare say in this space that should any Muslim suddenly come in to apologize on his behalf, that Muslim will get stereotyped as a ‘pathetic liberal’. But never mind that, we should be worried because when such freedom of speech gets out of hand, the ones that suffer inevitably are the innocent ones who truly represent Islam. And at the stake of what? One person’s Ad-sense revenues.
about 3 years ago
Please study and understand more of every religion before making you view points. Your views are respected but just that it will benefit you of you know more of them.
you’re feeling offended aren’t you? well, join the side that i’m on. but wait if you didn’t know what i’m actually frustrated over, I suggest you turn your own advice on yourself.
about 3 years ago
Unfortunately, it’s all about the money… If the numbers in your sect dwindle, u have less funds to manage ur sect and soon it’ll jus disappear…
So wad do the elders do? they preach evangelism so tt their sheeps will try to convince more sheep to come into the same pasture to munch, hence ensuring continuation…
I dunno if it sounds insensitive, but to me, it seems like a logical and practical take on why there’s so much bickering around…
about 3 years ago
I found your writing in Christianity fascinating.
I’m not a Christian but I’m touched by your views in this area as in many ways I also have the same Qs in mind like yours.
‘Sometimes religions aren’t the problem, the people are’ I heard it from somewhere but totally agree to it regardless of what religion we believe in.
Keep it up.
about 3 years ago
‘Sometimes religions aren’t the problem, the people are’
I agree with Kenn, the problem is not the religion but the people who “claim†who uphold the beliefs of whatever religion they practice. Mini, as always, I agree with the frustrations expressed here in such vivid clarity. Bless you.
Our actions, the words we utter, the life we live basically reflects the belief that we “claim†to uphold or practice. Sadly it always contradicts. The question is NOT whose God is better or which religion is far more superior.
Sadly, all of us have miss the point, and sad to say, extremist views are on the rise where tolerance the very basic nature of any religion is no longer relevant anymore.
We all have miss the point.
Bless you, mini. Well written article.
about 3 years ago
‘Sometimes religions aren’t the problem, the people are’
when the majority in any religion are zealous and holier than thou , they are the religion.
about 3 years ago
Entirely agreed on your view. Sometimes being Christians’ yourself, you can’t help but ponder, why does some of us act so much different. One statement in bible, somehow can be translated and perceived in so many different ways. To correct them, means to tell them that the bible is wrong in someway. I guess its all very personal.
about 3 years ago
I’m sorry for swearing, but that idiot problogger really needs to get a fucking clue.
But read this link from the Applegeeks webcomic to a post on another site.
Link:
http://www.theonion.com/content/node/28151
It was originally posted 2 weeks after WTC 9/11.
about 3 years ago
Muslims aren’t so bad. Forced circumcision will definitely make the girlfriend happy. Christians and Buddhists should consider doing that too.
about 3 years ago
Meh, I wouldn’t pay much attention to our fanatical friend, although his bullshit occasionally provides good laughs and lulz. A person who freely blasphemes other religions but gets all hysterical when some “infidel” does a little comment on his beloved mullahs, only shows how hypocritical and insecure he is.
He doesn’t really do a good job covering his tracks when starting up new anonymous websites either… like a few days ago.
about 3 years ago
Quoted from RantingsbyMM
Surely the Minister was talking about people like him, no? His posts does disrupt peace and harmony. I wonder if actions can be taken against him. However, even if it is possible, doesn’t mean that they will.
Since young I had a notion that all religions are possibly ‘man-made’. Someone from (let’s say) year 3030 must have built a time travel machine, went back through time, and started all this ‘religions’. How’s that?
But having said that, I am a believer myself.
BTW, your new photo looks good. :thumbs up:
about 3 years ago
I’m not sure which posting you refer too and I’m not here to apologize on his behalf. I just want to say that some of the Muslims also felt terrible at some people who ridicule other religions. Because in Al-Quran, God asked Muslims to respect other religions.
about 3 years ago
If only there’s no religions in this world, eh? We can all be one big atheistic family!
about 3 years ago
heyya, i always heard ur website mentioned by a couple of friends, and decided to drop by.
i’m a Hindu, (a bad one, i admit) as i’m raised fully on moral values and doing what i think is right and not what ‘my religion think is right’.
i’m surrounded by Muslims as friends, and i asked them whether Adam and Eve had a religion, and their reply was no. it seemed that when the world clustered into turmoil, that’s when religions were founded to help bring order back to the deviated humanity.
it used to work back then, but if we see it nowadays, the wars, and riots going around us are caused by insensitive jerks who wield parangs and shout at you even if u accidentaly mis-interpret their religion or beliefs.
something as beatiful and holy as a religion is being used as a scapegoat for wars and terror these days….
about 3 years ago
I’m a Muslim and believe me, not all of us think the way that blogger/Osama does. The over-zealous Muslims are just delusional. Many Muslims DO have respect for other religions, you just haven’t stumbled upon too many yet.
about 3 years ago
I can never understand some (and I emphasize SOME, not all) of these Muslim bloggers. On the one hand, they claim that they are misunderstood, discriminated against, tolerant people. On the other hand, they attack members of other religions, support making it illegal for Muslims to convert to other religions, and spit upon the God of one of the major religions of the world during one of its most holy times (i.e. calling Christ a “half-naked man swinging from a cross.”)
It is rank hypocrisy to call other religions intolerant, when you are busy doing as much discriminating as possible against others.
about 3 years ago
I think the problem is that some people focus too much on religion. They become so introverted that they refuse to see the variety of life that THEIR god has showered upon this world.
Frankly, I don’t care about judgemental pricks like that anymore. If a God does indeed exist, I’m sure he’ll get his at the end of the day.
about 3 years ago
Wishing you a Blessed Easter!
about 3 years ago
“I dare say in this space that should any Muslim suddenly come in to apologize on his behalf, that Muslim will get stereotyped as a ‘pathetic liberal’.”
BY WHOM??!! Surely not any of you? Why is it important in this case to worry about what close-minded, bigoted Muslims call the so-called “pathetic liberal” Muslims?
Being upset is no excuse to make generalisations on any group, no matter how upset you are. And being offended by irresponsible individuals of a group is no excuse to offend or think badly of the rest of them. I’m sure Jesus wouldn’t want you or anyone else to do that, I’m sure we know all this. And I’m sure you know this too: he’s our Jesus too, although not in the same way.
about 3 years ago
wow… reading this really open my eyes on you. you’ve always looked very ‘disturbed’ during baptism class. when you mentioned you made a bold move to move away from FGA…. i sort of know what you mean. i first moved away from KL wesley and then moved away from the mighty DUMC….
settling in our new church really brings me a lot of peace… without the pressure to live up to certain ppl’s expectations. i think we dont need to worry too much about who God loves most… i am sure He loves us all the same… till He knows how many strands of hair we have… the bible said that right?
i am jealous i am not the most famous blogger in BLC… sigh
Cheers
the-one-who-got-baptised-together-with-you-today
about 3 years ago
Ay, tis one Zewt not I lead him here one ar, ok?
Tis one Sivin is responsible. He the one who told him abt u.
……..
about 3 years ago
i already saw her face in the bloggers gathering party… just never ask only la… why la so scared steven?
about 3 years ago
I agree with Uncle Sha,
I understand that you’re upset about this ‘blogger’ hitting at your religion, but you shouldn’t generalize about all Muslims, we’re not ALL bad eh
. *hint* am not a bad one
And about the part where it’s said “do you find it Islamic to declare outright to a blogosphere with a good % of people in it being Christians themselves, that their one day dedication of Jesus’s sacrifice on the cross is nonsense?” that blogger’s sense of ‘Islamic’ acceptance is different from the majority.
I, for one, wouldn’t do anything like that. I live in Mauritius, a small island where loads of religions live along together, in almost complete harmony – and am in a relationship with a Chrisitian/Chinese girl [ ok, that's not Islamic at all!! ] – but it’s just to let you have an idea that we’re not all bad people
.
cheers.
about 3 years ago
What your great great grandma did when she “pai tee kong” is okay as far as buddhism is concerned. If she had access to the Buddha’s teaching she would have realised that she had only to “do good, avoid evil and purify the mind” and to avoid hatred(anger), greed(desire) and delusion.
btw My mother “pai tee kong” every year.
about 3 years ago
LaSh, Oh Claire is not afraid of you or the majority of muslims. Everyone knows what a few extremist can do.
about 3 years ago
hey zewt, u dunno la? u hv not seen the scratches n bruises on her man yet, hv u? hahhahahahahhhhhhhhh
about 3 years ago
Dunno leh, Claire. For all the brimstone and fire that he spews (regularly. on various websites. most of which he owns, runs directly or by proxy.) he keeps coming back to you leh.
It’s like he finds you irresistible. My guess is, however much he professes to love his darling (who ar?) I think he’s got this secret crush on you leh. That’s why he’s stalking you!! hehehhee…
about 3 years ago
one word: pharisee-ism.
about 3 years ago
MInd that idiotIC blogger who wrote whatsoever, JESUS WAS FULLY NAKED, NOT HALF NAKED. THAT”S HOW HE TOOK OUR SINS AND SHAME. Yeah…….that blogger is mean. But I’m always too scared to comment on their religion for I’m afraid they might just jihad me. I forgive them…
about 3 years ago
It always confused me which religion to join. Each has their own version and event of this and that. In Mathematics, if everything is equation is equal, paths can be change here and there but eventually reaching or converging to a common ground.
No offense to all the religions, but I think they should look at the larger picture and preach that : religion teaches you good things and not MY RELIGION IS THE BEST, others are WRONG !
Afterall, everyone is speaking on a subject that is so abstract that there’s no conclusive theory at the end of the day