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1. River of Karma Says:
   April 18th, 2007 at 12:39 pm

   Hey Claire,
   I’m hearing conflicting reports about Asia Works. You say its good, others say its a Big NO NO.

   Very simply - Are those statements of cult brainwashing and money hoarding in anyway true or is this another misunderstood motivational course?

   Would like to know.

   And hey, You can Do It. (I should get paid for that)

   You know what I honestly don’t know. I do know however that even before Basic training (which was sponsored yay) I read rickross.com (who also thinks that Christianity, Buddhism and Islam are all cults) and then along the way before making my decision to do all of the programmes, I read other sites including the very real fictitional essay beautifully written by Sharon. I also have to say that ‘enrollment’ is PART of the program, but enrollment actually means getting ppl to NOT think it’s a cult (so I suppose in an essence the company has probably failed in that part). But having this in mind doesn’t stop me from doing the programme which I think I ought to do (I mean I’ve come so far might as well kan? It’s a little bit like bungee jumping I think, the risks are there, there will be the people who shout praises about it and force sell it to people, resulting in a group of people becoming adverse to even the idea of it… I think that’s what’s happening now. It’s an unfortunate situation… and I just feel that… well, it’s important to be strong in character to come out even stronger and anchored.

   Oh wait yeah THAT’s the reason why I agreed to take up LP. Because judging from the ppl I got to know during my Advanced course (fully sponsored yay), they’re strong enough to MAKE sure I don’t come out a full-fledged MLM person. And then again, you have to remember this, at a point of my life I was waxing lyrical over AIESEC the organization until my old friends all thought I had converted myself into a religious university sect. I think human beings go through phases in life… it’s just natural. … Minus all of this rambling I also believe (very strongly) that the methods and habits I pick up during the AsiaWorks Leadership Programme will support me in my future. But of course, that’s just me. I’m so weak I actually need this whole thing to keep me up and going *wink*

2. Choo Ki The Poo Ki Says:
   April 19th, 2007 at 2:10 am

   Future? Oi chooki the puki, in few years time you can rest your pussy go to Kelantan be old chicken lar… You and your leadership style? Come lemme tell you what is leadership, with a bitch like you, I think you will adopt autocratic leadership mainly because to EVERY employee you have, they are all belong to the theory X people. Meaning they are very lazy, truth is you’re the one with an itchy pussy. Kakakaka…

   Eh so aspire to be a leader ka? Lead your boyfriend to fuck you lar? OLD VIRGIN? wait until your cibai turn purple only want him to fuck ka? Eh choo ki, face the reality ok? You’re one sort of a sick cunt who only knows how to fuck around and spread some bad rumours until people wanna give u death threat! Kakaka…

   Found nothing to blog is it? Nevermind, go take a picture with you WITHOUT make up lar… See you’re eligible for the Kelantan old whore. Kakaka

   I love you Choo Ki the Poo Ki
   Muax muax

   oh well, you seem to have said it all for the benefit of people who don’t know the real me. urm should I thank you or something?

3. cheehow Says:
   April 19th, 2007 at 4:32 am

   LP ??? LP wat you into now ??? i bet mus be LP over 100 huh…
   haha.. for good sake , after paying the money from basic to LP.. u get a conclusion out of that. PEOPLE NEVER CHANGE… and things do fuckup pretty much inside huh…
   at least ..well…depends which angle u’re looking from….
   anyway… if u free.. can checkup for LP17 , if the pic still hang on the wall.. see anyone u familiar with inside there.

   I’m LP 106. I have a super hyped-up group captain from my Advanced, but I suppose it’s a good thing. There’s too many punk rockers in my graduation class as it is.

4. bibliobibuli Says:
   April 19th, 2007 at 2:21 pm

   hi clare

   i’m just a cynic:

   http://thebookaholic.blogspot.com/2005/07/changeyourlife-sdn-bhd.html

   my further thoughts: there are people who attend courses like this and get a lot out of it (i know a couple), some get damaged (folks i’ve read about, but not folks i’ve met), most just get ripped off - do the maths and just see what an organisation like this is making per year and you will be staggered. i’d love to see a nice piece of investigative journalism on this.

   btw a book that helped me a great deal “the artist’s way” julia cameron. i reckon i got as much out of it as anyone who did an asiawork course and i can always read it again for a quick fix.

   what is the problem with the idiot above by the way?? rejected/wannabe boyfriend??? he’s got problems and maybe a little asiaworks hugging might do him good!

   I have to agree with one thing… that as in every ‘belief’ system there will always be the cracked nuts, and they’re cracked because they just refuse to embrace the fact that the reason why ‘the real world’ is reacting so violently against their rejuvenated ‘better’ version is just simply because it isn’t BETTER (uh-oh, contrary to what most AW graduates believe, some of you actually do turn out quite weird). It’s a bit like enrolling yourself into the notion of Charismaticism, for example. I think in essence, the whole movement actually is a great movement, revival in God can’t be a bad thing… but at the same time, we just, have this tendency to take things too far. And unfortunately, it is always the ones who go overboard that catch our attention, and those are the ones that shape our judgements.

   Of course it’s been a struggle not to let my judgements get in the way. I had ‘cult’ alert when the concept of AsiaWorks happened, it was happening all the time during my Advanced and etc… yet on the other hand, going through the experience ALSO tells me that as in everything, it is actually up to us to bring out the best in the programme. Maybe people just have to be conscious about the whole process. I had a long time to think about my LP (and in my world, taking more than 1 day to think about a decision IS A LONG TIME)… and at the end of it, I’m deciding to do it because the whole programme has really challenged me to see things in a way that I’ve never seen before. And being the judgemental bitch I am, you must understand that this IS actually a good thing.

   but of course i still think that people need to be educated and be aware of what they’re getting into prior to signing up. I don’t believe in lying before bringing a friend into the course. And I would be the first to recommend the necessary sites to show them what are the comments about this programme. I think people have the right to make their own decisions, and they have the right to stand by their decisions. in the same way, I feel also that people ought to respect the ones who’ve come out of AsiaWorks and choose to say that it’s a good course and recognize that maybe some people have always wanted to come out of that original shell of theirs… and if it makes them happy that way, why not?

   you know human beings are actually adverse to change, and I actually agree with you on that part. Change IS uncomfortable, so sometimes when I see friends change and I don’t like it, it takes a humongous effort to try to recognize that my friend is HAPPY with the change. and as his friend I have to do whatever it takes to show my support.

   PS on the making money part, well… overheads wise, time wise, these things may be inexpensive and asiaworks may be making a hell lot of money of out us idiots… but at the end of it, why do smart people choose to be idiots and still give up their cash for stuff like this? training wise, RM2800 for five full days isn’t that expensive from a corporate point of view, I know courses that cost at least double the price, for lecture styled classes. I just feel we shouldn’t use ‘they suck money’ just to prove a point that these things are cults. if AsiaWorks is for profit, so be it. I work for Tenaga, and I also pay for my electricity bills which can go quite high, but as a staff, I must also say that I don’t believe that my company should function as a charity. I’m all for my company earning more, because more revenue automatically means that we will be better equipped to provide more, more money for TNB means the staff get better pay and we’ll have a higher morale in providing better service. These things have to add up, businesses have to make money.IMHO its ridiculous if you only qualify a company as morally sound if they don’t earn a lot of money, or that they earn just enough to get by.

   Having been to their trainings (and other such trainings at that), you want my honest opinion? i think the cost is relatively low for the value you get in return (time consumed during entire training, roi). I review training packages for my company on a regular basis and this is an honest opinion.

5. Alexia @ rojakmaumau Says:
   April 19th, 2007 at 6:08 pm

   hi, i’m a new reader, got to know ur blog from kennysia.com…
   juz wanna say, when ppl hide behind their anonymity and start kutuking other ppl for no reason, there is no need to listen to them, because they don’t need to be responsible for what they say, that’s why they say what their retard brains tells them to. [or wait, do they even have a brain to start with? hurm...]
   there’s a reason why the garblement asked us malaysian bloggers to register lo… so that we talk responsibly. but they end up limiting the things we say in the end ba…
   anyways, ur blog is great! keep it up!

6. bibliobibuli Says:
   April 19th, 2007 at 7:16 pm

   clare, if it works for you and you consider it money well spent, then do it

   “I don’t believe that my company should function as a charity”. sorry dear, it already does, handing money over to the IPP’s who produce nothing at all (an over capacity of electricity cannot be stored … but tenaga still has to buy it)

   That’s why I said that I DON’T believe that my company (or any company for that matter) should function as a charity.

   our bills would be very much lower without this. and who are the people pocketing the money??? not us dear.

   remember always to keep a corner of your heart cynical!

   feedback appreciated, i think you ought to be the last person on earth to label me not-cynical ^_^.

7. Jerome Says:
   April 30th, 2007 at 9:28 am

   Claire,
   Doing LP ???? Take it from a fellow ancient LP you do not know what you will going through. DOE is just the surface but if you do not have any enrollment you’re doomed!!!! Your coordinator and your senior do not give a shit about what’s not working/or working on your DOE except enrollment, enrolment & enrolment. Even you have fullfill the enrollment part then the famous jargon -” What’s next ? Are you still going 100% ? Do you stop making a difference the ppl around you just because you declare on your DOE ? Are you playing safe & do not what to go the distance ? LP is about streching for 3 months beyond your limitation! Do you want to your LP as a leagacy, blah blah blah”
   Imagine if you fullfill your DOE 100% minus the enrollment pillar how on earth AW will survive! Ppl like you will go like a headless chicken making sure you have the enrollment and if this another form of MLM.
   After the 3 months journey you’ll be suck in into the OLD BOYS/GIRLS Association of AW where the only ppl that you can only communicate are all the fellow GLP because the centre is the ONLY SAFE place for you to rant and rant your bullshit! Try telling your jargon in the open public and see how ppl will react!
   Then they coax you into staffing/senioring ie making contribution for others at your expense for free! AW knows how to get free meal and suckers like you think that you are in contribution.
   Wake up and get real in life Claire. 3 months of the journey you may get your fellow LP to push you to create result but after that you’ll be back to your old self doing what you’re doing. People never change!

   Hehehehhe yeah. I had this entire conversation going on in my head during the second night btw. And I do have this conversation going on in my head from time to time. I think the cool part about dissing the whole AW premise is, Basic / Advanced / LP grads who come out bitter and pissed off over the money thrown into the whole thing still turn out ranting in typical AW lingo. Prime example, check out your jargon dear. I don’t get you! (p.s. I’m supposed to be a language ‘expert’ so when I see words like
   excellence’, ‘enrolment’, ‘interesting’, ‘change’ I don’t take them literally. I’m not like you. And since you’ve read my posts, people don’t change. I’m not joining AW to change. I’m just a little in need of 40 new friends and paying RM1500 to meet up with new people and bond with them over 90 days isn’t that expensive for me because I’m loaded. So blow me over. Bleh.

8. Hanky Panky Says:
   May 1st, 2007 at 9:07 pm

   Oh What the fuck…. go do it anyway…..
   Finally found ur blog…. i’ve tried minishots… minihot and minitots….
   finally…..

9. schooledya Says:
   May 15th, 2007 at 4:14 am

   Jerome you put it nicely, cant agree with you more. Been in basic. advance, LP, it was a waste of effort and time. In my opinion its just for the weak minded. Take my word for it, Don’t waste your time with this shit. Just ain’t worth it. The seniors will flirt terribly targeting the girls that they lust and having an affair with the newbies..even with married ones trust me i know. lol. With the kind of hypocrisy that’s going on i decided to quit, they don’t practise what they preach like jerome said People never change, That’s what they are.

   Have you seen how fat that actor afdlin shauki is now..lol bet you he can never lose weight after going all the way through the mastery course hehehe. kudos to asiaworks for messing ppl mind up.

10. Chef Says:
    May 16th, 2007 at 7:20 pm

    Hmm with so many people commenting on the training, as a Lp grad myself, I’ll put in my 2 sens worth…

    I did mine more a long long time ago. I came out of it realizing that i was driven more by how i feel about things than actual results. Jerome was right ” People never change” and i did not change at all, still as lazy as ever. I will never become the tycoon i always wanted to be pre-basic because i realized that i am actually quite happy with what i have, that was my “real” intention…

    In the end its just about “Results” ( hahaha cant stop the jargon )
    I am actually quite happy now, have a great relationship with my ultra complicated family and gf ( 6 of em done at least Basic ), doing really well in my own biz that i started in LP, bought that bungalow i wanted in Bangsar… still driving a my old Honda though ( i always thought it brings me luck )… became more religious ( Buddhism )… Started new hobbies like gourmet cooking… Stopped drinking and smoking ( thanks to my senior’s ass kicking )…

    I could go on and on These are not results of the Asiaworks training but its results that i have created myself. I do credit Asiaworks on some of the concepts such as intention creates the results you want and responsibility for any pitfalls are on my shoulders ( I learnt alot from that, especially the common senior’s automatic response, Whats working, Whats not working, Whats next ) and to shift past my down time ( my god the jargons are all coming back !! )

    Jerome is right about the senior’s pushing on enrolment all the time, i had 11 during my journey and i got pissed when they keep pushing for more and more… I had the conversation on Asiaworks making money and so on but the funny thing is that i had that coversation only when i could not get my result… that was my breakthrough then and there… how i always have a conversation and a reason to cover up my own basic failures ( the lesson on the enrolment pillar was a great reflection on how i was handling my own life ). If you dont want to do it then dont… I did mine because i had this crazy pride issue and dont like losing.

    My point of sharing is this, do the training if you want to, its not an easy journey and the values you get from it is how much you yourself put in. I dont suggest doing the training if you have a problem to solve in your life, like a relationship issue or what not. Dont do it if you are looking for the training to change your life, it does not do that. Especially dont do it because you are placating the person who is enrolling you. If you choose to do the training for any of the above reasons then you will definetly blame the training for whatever is not working in your life now.

    Do it if you are looking for a new challenge ( Basic ) or want to have a catalyst to cause change ( Advance ) or to take a look at how you work with people and results ( LP ). Thats all.

    I throughly enjoyed it, i got great value from it and thanks to it, got alot in the past few years of my life.

    Only words i can pass on for you is to go as far as you can possibly go and then somemore Focus on your personal goals, the enrolment part came easy when my own goals was working, people keep coming up to me and asking me what happened to me and i just told them about the training…

    All the best Claire in these 3 months and may your DOE have the goals you REALLY want to get done hahahaha

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